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Older discussions[edit]

cybernetic[edit]

thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nitin Das (talkcontribs) .

Doom 64 maps page layout[edit]

I just realized that for some reason the layout of pages about Doom 64 maps are different than what other map pages use. Shall I change it to match it more like the others? --ZeroTheEro (talk) 06:27, 2 April 2020 (CDT)

Wouldn't hurt. --Quasar (talk) 07:37, 2 April 2020 (CDT)
Alrighty. --ZeroTheEro (talk) 08:03, 2 April 2020 (CDT)

Press articles about Doom[edit]

Hey, can I split reviews into multiple tables, one for each version/different game? --Buzzbomber82 (talk) 02:54, 3 April 2020 (CDT)

Sounds like a good idea to me. --Quasar (talk) 04:26, 3 April 2020 (CDT)

Quasar[edit]

Quasar Grain of Salt (talk) 10:36, 13 May 2020 (CDT)

Moo. --Quasar (talk) 11:43, 13 May 2020 (CDT)

id Anthology info[edit]

Hello, I have recently gained information about the id Anthology I would like to add. I reached out to John Romero to verify the number of units created, and he confirmed the number of 10,000 was correct. How can I properly cite this, as it was in a direct email correspondence? If you have an email address I can forward it to you. --73.122.219.81 12:21, 31 July 2020 (CDT)

If you'd like to forward it, as I'm interested in having it for historical purposes, you can send it to haleyjd AT hotmail dot com (using the @ and . as normal). In the meantime it's OK to add it to the article anyways - sometimes we run into things like this that can't be directly cited but are known to come from reliable sources. --Quasar (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2020 (CDT)

Weapon categories[edit]

Sorty, but for what exact reason you are adding the "double-barreled shotguns" category is the is no other double-barreled shotguns besides the Super Shotguns which have their own disambiguation part in their own pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.51.168.64 (talk)

See New category suggestion. --Xymph (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2020 (CDT)

Doom RPG[edit]

I was reading your recent updates to Doom RPG article and began to wonder, if you have a copy of High-end BREW version of this game by chance? --Yetanotherhope

I have a friend who does. He's currently working on extracting the data from it. --Quasar (talk) 15:36, 24 January 2021 (CST)
Perhaps, a friend of yours is currently working on Doom RPG reverse engineering project? --Yetanotherhope 02:01, 25 January 2021 (CST)
Yep 😊 --Quasar (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2021 (CST)
Cool! Can't wait to see what secrets this version of game is holding. 😊 --Yetanotherhope 03:12, 27 January 2021 (CST)

Looking to have revisions checked[edit]

Hello. I'm new here. I'm not really a Doom person but I've gone out of my way almost two weeks ago to update the WebTV Plus page (which IMO, is a bit inaccurate of a name) concerning info on the elusive WebTV port of Doom and the frankly shoddy preservation efforts by the people in WebTV's hacking scene that followed 23 years after it was discovered to spread awareness about how endangered the original port is, along with just WebTV information in general. I've waited a week now but my changes are still pending. Since you've contributed to the page prior I figured you might be a little more interested in checking out the changes and hopefully giving them the greenlight. Thanks in advance.

By the way, wonder what's up with the email system here. Has it stopped working recently or is it just me as I can't even get a confirmation email sent to my inbox. WTV-411 (talk) 06:59, 7 June 2021 (CDT)

This is now done. I had concerns about the removal of some of the previous source links, which I have restored w/archived links as the sites have gone down since I wrote the original article. I also removed a mega.nz link as we cannot link to any kind of unauthorized files obtained through hacking or reverse engineering of commercial products here. The other changes were more minor picky stuff for flow and grammar.
You may not receive email at all if you are using a Google service, as they block our server for not implementing a Google-specific form of anti-spam response which the software on our server doesn't support. We've also had off-and-on problems with Microsoft blocking us, though I have recently been receiving things at my hotmail address. If you're using a different service, let me know. --Quasar (talk) 23:52, 7 June 2021 (CDT)
I'm fine with the MEGA link being removed if it's against the rules. Appears I didn't read too much into that. 😅 Also the only source link I really had actual issue with before my changes was the random link to a WebTV hacker's site that was thrown in as tacky advertising, which judging from the IP of the editor (since it's close to an IP of a home server a WebTV hacker manages) is possibly the owner of said site. That's just me though. Anyway, I'm still liking the end result and maybe this'll encourage some people lurking in the shadows to at least make more commotion about the abysmal state of WebTV-related preservation. I can only dream though.
Also had a feeling it had to do with Gmail not liking the mail servers (which is the email I used for this site). Guess I'll just use Protonmail or something. --WTV-411 (talk) 08:07, 8 June 2021 (CDT)

Brief, incoherent FlaggedRevs followup[edit]

In light of previous conversation, I should note the extension is beginning therapy [1] with a developer who knows what they're doing.  Of course a product manager could reshuffle priorities tomorrow, but if this code ever reaches production, it will be backward-compatible (to prevent German Wikipedia from forking) so we won't be starting from scratch.

I was never attached to the tier system although other contributors clearly like it, and I might even post a rant to represent the overall self-hosting POV (to which you need not respond  :>

Tangent: the shell team likely has bigger fish to fry during the upgrade process itself, e.g. irreversible metadata migration [2].  FWIW / KUTGW.  Ryan W (living fossil) 01:01, 8 June 2021 (CDT)

Thanks for the heads-up ^_^ --Quasar (talk) 08:25, 8 June 2021 (CDT)

100,000 Levels Title header upload problem[edit]

I'm currently having problems uploading my image of 100,000 Levels onto this wiki despite the file size not going above 2.44 MBs. The resolution is 1920x1080 and wondering what the problem could be? Justice ∞ (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2021 (CDT)

If there's somewhere else you can toss it (such as an image hosting site for example) I could try it here. Otherwise it's difficult for me to debug. --Quasar (talk) 19:04, 29 August 2021 (CDT)
Here you go https://imgur.com/gallery/1mY1QW3. I had to downsize my image to a lower resolution in order for me to be able to upload on here. Everytime I tried uploading the image, it would fail and refresh back to the upload page. Justice ∞ (talk) 00:40, 31 August 2021 (CDT)

Requesting a minor username change, please[edit]

I would like to request a username change. The new username, featuring the desired capitalisation and split into two words, should be:

Rata asquerosa

RataAsquerosa (talk) 10:02, 25 September 2021 (CDT)

Edit notices[edit]

I saw your note on Taw Tulki's talk page about warnings being ignored and decided to bring my response here rather than clog their page up.

I can think of two possible options:

  1. Apply an edit notice to contentious pages that carries a similar warning as {{ConsensusContentionMsg}}. Anyone trying to edit such pages would then see the notice at the top of the page - the problem is that if they ignore the big red box at the top of the article, they'll probably ignore the big red box on the edit page as well.
  2. Apply semi-protection to the affected articles to stop any editing by new/unregistered users. I don't favour this option personally as Pending Changes/FlaggedRevs already requires edits from those groups of people to be reviewed before the average viewer actually sees them, and all this would do is discourage potential editors.

On the other hand, it doesn't matter what you do - some people will always find ways to not do what you tell them. Gauss (talk) 13:18, 9 November 2021 (CST)

Unfortunately option 1 uses a "fmbox" template which is an #invoke, meaning it is implemented using Wikipedia's Scribunto plugin, which we don't support here because I think it's crazy to write web frontend code in Lua. --Quasar (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2021 (CST)
You're forced to include the Lua piece regardless of the inner template used?  That's rude.  IIRC though, many templates worked just fine before Scribunto rolled out, including this one.  We could try importing the historical snapshot if there's a clear use for it.
FWIW, Gauss, it's supposed to be relatively easy to post a custom boxed message with the standardized templates Quasar implemented (stupid example).  However, for registered users, a talk page message is safer because MediaWiki has longstanding issues with templates/banners not displaying on mobile.  (It affects Wikipedia much more often because of the huge amount of custom JS/CSS, but I remember hitting it here occasionally.)  HTH.    Ryan W (living fossil) 09:45, 18 December 2021 (CST)
As far as Scribunto-backed templates go (aka Modules), you would be reimplementing everything in template markup, which means doing it from scratch. And unfortunately there have been a lot of renames and subsequent deletions on Wikipedia that have made it impossible to access the edit history of a lot of templates from before they installed Scribunto. --Quasar (talk) 19:18, 18 December 2021 (CST)

Name change[edit]

Since you're not on IRC... it would have been better to wait for Doomkid's response before jumping the gun. --Xymph (talk) 02:47, 26 May 2022 (CDT)

Well what's done is done. Can always change it back based on what he says. I usually do not want to argue about these kinds of things as there are things like data removal laws in Europe etc. --Quasar (talk) 02:49, 26 May 2022 (CDT)
I didn't start an argument, just raised practical implications with Doomkid, and it would not have caused any problem waiting for his view on this (which is indeed the deciding factor here). --Xymph (talk) 02:59, 26 May 2022 (CDT)
Righto; just meant I tend to favor immediate action. --Quasar (talk) 03:03, 26 May 2022 (CDT)

No "br"?[edit]

I was wondering after reading your comment to not use "br" inside HTML blocks elements in the Magenta Spire article, what is the correct code then to create proper spacing between entries in the list so that left and right columns match up properly? I'm somewhat confused since i used this many times before and it was apparently fine; and i've seen it used in many other articles like Eviternity for the exact same purpose. It seems to me that you and Xymph have different stances when it comes to some of these writing conventions? What's the whole beef about between HTML and markup? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gregor (talkcontribs) .

Breaks are meant to occur inside paragraphs of text as part of inline flow; using them to create padding between block elements is HTML 1.0 style use of markup. Padding and margins should be established via use of CSS properties. I was not aware that it had become a sort of consensus to be using them this way and I would have rather it not done so if I'd known about it. There are more appropriate ways to accomplish the same thing. Please sign your posts btw, it's difficult to know who you are talking to otherwise without having to check the page history. There is a button on the toolbar for it that says "Your signature with timestamp." --Quasar (talk) 22:31, 10 December 2022 (CST)
I've studied the output further and this is not actually a problem because MediaWiki will "fix" the HTML output automatically; it does this by wrapping the break in paragraph tags so that there's proper flow between the block elements (ul in this case) and the inline element (br). So please disregard my concerns going forward. I'll fix the article I changed. --Quasar (talk) 22:40, 10 December 2022 (CST)
Alright. False alarm. Sorry, i just forgot to sign. Is "nbsp" okay as well? That's what is used in flagship articles like Valiant and Ancient Aliens for instance instead of "/br".

Btw, how do i make tags render? If i add the & and ; to nbsp or the <> around br they obviously don't rendered anymore. I'm no programmer, so i'm still learning all this syntax --Gregor (talk) 23:06, 10 December 2022 (CST)

You can either escape them (&lt;br&gt;) - <br> - or use nowiki tags (<nowiki><br></nowiki>) - <br> --Quasar (talk) 08:45, 11 December 2022 (CST)

Fallout Shelter x Doom assets[edit]

Greetings from the Independent Fallout Wiki. I have pulled assets from Fallout Shelter Online (sprites and icons) and made a gallery with those pertaining to Doom. If you would like the assets here, I am happy to upload, I just didn't want to do so if not. You can check them out here. (Pretty cute, eh?) -Kid Aces Fallout Wiki.png Indie Fallout Wiki 04:08, 26 December 2022 (CST)

Our local content policy is to avoid direct asset rips; I know it's rather unusual among game wikis, most of them bank on the continued good will of their respective publishers to a greater degree than the Doom community has ever been comfortable with. We'll let you continue to host those as-is without duplicating them here, and I have no problem w/us linking to you for that particular form of the content - that way you keep the value inherent, which is closer to your mission anyways. If there are any screenshots that show the same things in-context in the game, those would fall under our allowed fair-use images. --Quasar (talk) 04:28, 26 December 2022 (CST)
Sounds good! Thank you for letting me know the ropes! -Kid Aces Fallout Wiki.png Indie Fallout Wiki 19:36, 27 December 2022 (CST)

Mystery message[edit]

It said I had a message from you, but you deleted it because something about "trolling". What gives? MargaretThatcher (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2023 (CST)

The troll came from an IPv6, the nonsense can still be accessed from your talk page's history. --Xymph (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2023 (CST)

Request for adding new templates[edit]

Hi there - could we get the {{break}} and {{paragraph break}} template added to the wiki? I often find that <br> and <p> are rather cumbersome to use and somewhat limiting for spacing and line wrapping inside lists and quotes, since <p> has to be used in pairs and chaining <br> two or three times looks kinda messy imo; besides, two line breaks create a wider gap than one <p>, so they can't really be used interchangeably. These new templates would make spacing in these situations easier. --Gregor (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2023 (CDT)

Doom 3 weapon template but with weapon slot keys.[edit]

So I noticed that the classic Doom weapon template now has slot keys, and I was wondering if the Doom 3 weapons template could be edited to have the slot keys as well.

I have the example already done on my user page. --ZeroTheEro (talk) 11:57, 18 June 2023 (CDT)

Quasar is busy off-wiki, but that looks fine to me. --Xymph (talk) 04:53, 20 June 2023 (CDT)
I just saw this message, so went ahead and changed it, feel free to revert it if it's unwieldy. --ZeroTheEro (talk) 13:24, 31 August 2023 (CDT)

Name Change[edit]

Where can I change my name to PGE? I don't want to keep impersonating a dead British lady.MargaretThatcher (talk) 21:27, 11 July 2023 (CDT)

Eternity Engine remixing Freedoom tracks[edit]

(I couldn't think of a less-awkward way to contact you about something Eternity related, just me being dumb)
I've noticed that the Eternity Engine remixes a few of Freedoom's tracks :
"Warpath" by Picklehammer; 0.1 - 0.12 PH2/DM title
"Burn the Bodies" by Picklehammer; 0.1 - 0.12 PH2 intermssion, current repo DM intermission
"Riders of Hell" by Picklehammer; 0.1 - 0.12 MAP07
"Paranoia" by Picklehammer; 0.1 - 0.12 MAP30
are the ones I've noticed so far. I can't seem to find where the files for these are stored (unless they're hard-coded) and a few of them are being removed in 0.13. :P
--Blursphere (talk) 08:28, 5 January 2024 (CST)

Do you just mean that the music sounds different? It's probably a different soundfont than the one you're used to; it's not a "remix". Fraggle (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2024 (CST)
Oh, hi there Fraggle. No, it straight up changes some of the instruments in later non-release builds, regardless of soundfont. Blursphere (talk) 01:52, 7 January 2024 (CST)