Doom Wiki talk:Terms of use

Initial revision open for public comment
The terms of service are scheduled to take effect on May 29 (30 days from the initial posting). This is an adaptation of WikiMedia Foundation's ToS, tailored to the specifics of our site. I don't think there's anything that should be objectionable in here, but the wording of some things may need to be further refined. Feel free to point out mistakes or suggest modifications here. --Quasar (talk) 01:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Professional topics

 * Although we may host information that pertains to professional topics, including medical, legal, or financial issues

Um, really? It seems quite unlikely to me that we'd get pages about such issues. At most there could be talk of legal issues by way of copyright, trademark, and other so-called IP law questions... --Gez (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * General disclaimer just in case anything on the site can be considered advice of such a nature. The likelihood IS low, but it is better disclaimed IMO. --Quasar (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation

 * We hope that no serious disagreements arise involving you, but, in the event there is a dispute, we encourage you to seek resolution through the dispute resolution procedures or mechanisms provided by the Projects or Project editions and the Wikimedia Foundation.

We're not affiliated to Wikimedia Foundation, are we? --Gez (talk) 13:18, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Fixed. --Quasar (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Liability

 * In no event shall our liability exceed one thousand U.S. dollars (USD 1000.00) in aggregate.

Is that a legal minimum? Because it still seems excessively high for something like the Doom Wiki. --Gez (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * IANAL, so, I don't know. It was copied verbatim from the WMF version. If somebody wants to do research on the matter and can find out otherwise, I'll gladly change it. For that matter, I'm not terribly happy about setting the venue to Oklahoma as it means I get to handle the legal complaints personally should they arise :P I don't know what else to state though and it's better than me getting a subpoena for, say, a hearing in New York or California. --Quasar (talk) 15:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I found alternative legalese floating around that sets the liability to minimum regardless of what the legal requirement is, and have replaced the $1000 with that. --Quasar (talk) 21:02, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Grammatical crap
Simple stuff first. :>  Section numbers are in brackets.


 * "reuse" isn't hyphenated in the summary box, but every other instance on the page is hyphenated
 * [00] and offer a framework &rarr; and to offer a framework (parallel construction to preceding prepositional phrase)
 * [00] reader, editor, author, or contributor of &rarr; reader, editor, author, or contributor to (preposition has to match the nearest subject word, or else put a preposition after each of the four)
 * [0] The community - < . . . > - are the principal means &rarr; The community - < . . . > - is the principal means
 * [0] most of which is either &rarr; most of which are either
 * [1] other country laws &rarr; other countries' laws
 * [4, final list] that of our users &rarr; those of our users
 * [6e] Except as consistent &rarr; Except as is consistent
 * [9] Manage otherwise &rarr; Otherwise manage
 * [10] our services any time &rarr; our services at any time
 * [14] the Doom Wiki community &rarr; the DoomWiki.org community (to match sections 4 and 6)
 * [14] agree with &rarr; agree to (to match section 00)
 * "Project" vs "Projects" should probably be consistent, though there may well be some lawyerly reason for using the plural when we only have one. Also, why is it capitalized in some places but not others?

Ryan W (talk) 02:26, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Proposed clarifications
Section numbers in brackets.


 * [00] "Doom Wiki project" &rarr; "Doom Wiki project ("the Project")" (we're pre-defining "you" and "us", so might as well do this too)
 * [00] Doom Wiki &rarr; Doom Wiki:About (if we're talking policy, better to link to an internal page than an "encyclopedia" page, especially if we split them again someday which I think we should)
 * [3b] the part about "medical, legal, financial" is in the preamble almost verbatim; are both really needed?
 * [6h] "wiki" &rarr; "wiki"
 * [7] link to DMCA FAQ specifically, instead of just chillingeffects.org?
 * [8] "disabling" &rarr; "counterproductive" (not general enough)

Ryan W (talk) 18:20, 15 May 2014 (UTC)