Talk:E4M2: Perfect Hatred (Doom)

Hardest level of entire Doom series?
Sure it's no E1M1, and probably harder than anything else in The Ultimate Doom (although if you're going for 100% kills I'd argue E4M1 is harder), but hardest level of the series?? In terms of difficulty quite a bit of Doom II completely eclipses it (eg MAP23, MAP28) as does almost everything from Final Doom.160.39.202.171 02:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It's difficult to answer such questions straightforwardly, since there are few (if any) widely recognized authorities on solo play strategy, and probably no systematic efforts to create something like a numerical difficulty index (which would be a cool thing to add to walkthrough articles!). I suppose one could make the case that, although E4M2 is indeed smaller and generally contains punier monsters than the levels you've listed, the probability of getting killed at the very beginning is higher since there is nothing to set your back against and you have to run through a lot of lava/hitscan attacks to pick up ammo.  I also seem to recall that it took quite a while longer to complete the COMPET-N table for E4M2 than for MAP23 or MAP28.  Maybe excavating some forum polls and Usenet threads would reveal a consensus for one of these positions (including yours).  Or maybe it wouldn't, in which case the most reasonable way to word the article is IMHO quite unclear.    Ryan W 21:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)