Talk:Doom in popular culture

Doom sounds in media

I live in the United States, and sometimes hear a radio advertisement for the Hyundai Tucson which begins with the unmistakable sound of a skull cube being launched (DSBOSPIT).  I can't seem to find any hard evidence in print or on the web, though.    Ryan W 01:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I hear DSBOSPIT in a lot of BBC TV programmes. I think it's a royalty-free or public-domain sound (but I have no proof). -- Jdowland 11:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

On the Trivia page and corresponding link, it is stated that most Doom sounds were derived from a professional sound set released in the early '90s. I remember hearing different Doom sounds on TV all through the decade (ex: "Mega Diaper Babies" ep of Nickelodeon's Rugrats, I think) and I still hear some today in games like World of Warcraft (demon attack sound). You can hear some of them in their original form by following the link in Trivia and listening to the provided demo. Zack 23:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

"family guy scene was from SNES Doom"

"family guy scene was from SNES Doom" - This is absolutely false. By observing the video you can see the engine behaves like the PC version of Doom and not the SNES version. A clear example is the fact that the SNES version does not contain sprites that look away from the player, but in the family guy scene, imps are looking away. (See the screenshot in this article.) Zack 18:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Where is the line drawn?

"The Dark Side of Phobos is a collection of arrangements from the game's soundtrack."

Yes it is, but as this was developed as a fan collaboration and distributed on a fan site (OCRemix), what exactly makes this a "Pop culture" reference to Doom? It is a respectable fan-made tribute, but I wouldn't call it pop culture. Should a separate page be made listing fan contributions to Doom, including DSoP? There are a hell of a lot more in every possible medium, including webcomics (both individual strips and entire series), literature (as seen on fanfiction.net and some Doom sites), fan art, Flash movies, and on and on and on.

Should all that stuff be included here? Should it get its own article? Or should it be ignored? (Ooo, I vote article!) Zack 23:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

This is an important question IMHO.  People here tend to ignore it because it is too hard.  See for example here.  We've had similar discussions on the notability of fan games and of people.  There is a huge and ongoing argument on Wikipedia over how many articles each TV series should have.  I'm getting exhausted just making this list, so maybe it's not a surprise that people avoid these tasks if they seem like labor-intensive marginalia.  I personally believe that there should be some standard for inclusion, but the community members most qualified to write one (those who have been around for 10+ years, modding, programming, speedrunning, and hosting forums) don't think it's an urgent enough issue to speak up.    Ryan W 00:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)