Editing Talk:E3M4: House of Pain (Doom)

I'm curious to know the relationship between the two pits, crushing pillars and three switches on the wall in this room.  The switch on the right I understand opens the door to the next section of the map.  But getting the pit floors to rise to reach the invulnerability and other goodies while avoiding setting off the pillars is still, years on, a mystery.

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[[Image:E3M4crsh.png|thumb|center|Two pits, crushing pillars, and three switches on the wall]]

: The other two switches raise the goodies up to the level of the surrounding floor.&nbsp; You can't get to the goodies without setting off the pillars (unless the [[noclip bug]] occurs), because they are completely surrounded by the triggers for the pillars (orange rectangles).&nbsp; You can reach the switches without setting off the pillars, however, by walking parallel to the left wall of the entrance passage.

: Use [[:Category:Level editors|a map editor]] to see all the details of the [[tag]]s.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 20:53, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

== Re: bug #2 ==

"After the area with the crushers, you come to a room with demons at either side. After this room if you turn around and press use, it opens the sector as a door and then closes after. It can be opened again from that side but if you open the sector and go back towards the start, you will get trapped and have to kill yourself or load a saved game, or in online play restart the game completely. This can in some rare cases be triggered by a monster. " Can it really be triggered by a monster in vanilla? I remember that in Doomsday, it can; maybe in ZDoom also.