Editing Talk:Entryway/Archive (section) From DoomWiki.org Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! == Changes to how-to links on Entryway == [[How to download and run Doom]] is IMHO still fatally incomplete because it omits OS X, one of three systems on that list with a broad userbase. I was planning to fix it myself, but haven't yet found a computer to borrow. [https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/42220-getting-doom-on-the-mac-to-work/ This tutorial] is a great idea in theory, but omits a lot of step-by-step installation details, doesn't pick a specific port as an example (which IMHO will confuse non-hardcore gamers), and is of course no more NPOV than the rest of Doomworld. [[How to play Doom on Windows XP]] contains three basic types of content: * Generic advice about running DOS on Win2K machines, which is already treated with intimidating thoroughness by existing retrogaming sites, e.g. [http://www.the-underdogs.info/guidedos.php HOTU]. * Vanilla-specific tuning tips, which are relevant only for speedrunners and therefore should be part of a speedrunning tutorial, not a newbie tutorial. * The "quick start" thing (newly added) at the very end, which should be a subset of any newbie guide, not the entire thing. Nothing of a ''technical'' nature is extraordinary about this situation: it is simply one more instance of an obsolete environment (DOS in this case). Presumably, when writing about SNES Doom, we will not include instructions on how to connect an SNES to an HDTV. Therefore, I believe that [[How to download and run Doom]] should be linked on the main page, and [[How to play Doom on Windows XP]] should be merged and deleted. I have tried to avoid this discussion until the former article is ready for prime time, but I don't want to revert the anon editors either because I am [https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=How_to_download_and_run_Doom&action=history hardly a neutral observer] (in case that isn't really obvious from the tone of this post). So, what should be done? [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 23:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC) :Even though [[How to download and run Doom]] doesn't deal with OS X, I'd still say it's good enough for "prime time", since it basically includes all the information included in [[How to play Doom on Windows XP]] and more. And hey, just the XP specific article alone has been in the limelight for quite some time, so why not one that has a Linux guide as well. Hell, various "how to download and run game X"-guides on the net do not include any other operating systems related info apart from Windows stuff (I'm naturally talking about games released on other operating systems as well here). And yeah, I agree that the article should be merged with [[How to play Doom on Windows XP]]. :And IMO the vanilla Doom running guide should be kept in [[How to download and run Doom]]. This is because there will always be purists (even among newbies), who want to strictly play the original game and not just something resembling it. Plus, even total Doom newbies may be interested in speedrunning (people may even pick up the game just to speedrun it), which is another reason why I think we should keep the vanilla running guide in these newbie guides, and not as a separate speedrunning tutorial. -- [[User:Janizdreg|Janizdreg]] 03:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC) :: ''who want to strictly play the original game and not just something resembling it'' Yeah, that's another issue I have with the new section: ZDoom includes many wonderful features, but vanilla-like physics isn't one of them. God help us if Freedoom ever gets finished. [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 02:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC) Summary: All contributions to DoomWiki.org are considered to be released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 International (see Doom Wiki:Copyrights for details). By contributing, you agree to be bound by the Terms of Use. Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above. Do not submit copyrighted images or text without permission! This includes text taken from in-game codices or logbooks, or from official instruction manuals, strategy guides, and other such books. This project is not affiliated with id Software, Raven Software, ZeniMax Media, Bethesda SoftWorks, or any other commercial software developer or publisher. Use of trademarked logos and other protected intellectual property is solely for the purpose of analysis and critical commentary on the identified products and associated fan community activity, and does not imply any endorsement by any of these organizations or their employees, past or present. Upload images to the wiki. Don't forget to categorize pages! For testing, please use a sandbox. View this template Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window)