Editing Talk:Monster behavior From DoomWiki.org Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! <i>"Arch-Viles can never be the target of another monster"</i> This is not explained in the article - Can someone elaborate on why this can't happen? I understand that arch-viles can't <i>accidentally</i> attack anything except their real target. BUT, other enemies can accidentally attack the arch-vile, so if in retaliation the arch-vile targets, say, an imp, then the imp might target the arch-vile after being attacked by it. Furthermore I have a very vague memory of witnessing this (but no immediate evidence to back this up). Am I wrong about this? [[User:Zaximus|Zack]] 16:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC) : No, the imp would not target the arch-vile. It's in the code (see for example [[Talk:Monster infighting#Pain chance check?|here]], and the [[Arch-Vile]] article). Or try playing 12.WAD from Maximum Doom with IDDT, and watch the arch-vile kill the cyberdemon or the spiderdemon. : Some source ports have changed or compatibility-optioned this behavior, so... no offense, but when people say that they vaguely remember something but don't bother to go back and test it, [[Talk:Arch-Vile gluing monsters together|it was almost certainly in a port]]. [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 17:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC) ==Ranged attack use== Is there source code to support this? Because that whole section runs entirely counter to my experience. Ryback 00:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC) : Indeed there is: [https://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/47744-questionable-paragraph-in-doomwikis-cyberdemon-article/]. [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 23:07, June 10, 2010 (UTC) ==Threshold== "Note that this is only a possibility, and often the monster will choose to ignore the hits it takes and keep its current target even if its threshold is at zero." What is the support for this statement? In the source code, when a monster is damaged, the threshold is checked and if the check succeeds, the monster always switches to target the source of the damage. [[Special:Contributions/69.22.237.141|69.22.237.141]] 08:33, August 29, 2010 (UTC) :According to Quasar, you are correct. It's fixed now. -- [[User:Janizdreg|Janizdreg]] 05:16, September 26, 2010 (UTC) == Monster movement == Actually I first thought about this a long time ago, but had lost the link somehow then, just to stumble upon it again recently. {{archived link|http://www.trilobite.org/doom/flight.html|This page|https://web.archive.org/web/20210518163846/http://www.trilobite.org/doom/flight.html|archive.org}} looks pretty encyclopedic, especially the part about flying monsters. Frankly, for me it was a revelation, and while I cannot say that it is a little-known topicin general, I think this really should be here on the wiki. Clearly, flying movement in Doom is quite distinct and restrained in comparison with subsequent games, and for example, knowing its idiosyncrasies gives certain tactical advantages. Section about movement can be expanded here, but I think it will be better to have a separate article. --[[User:Unmaker|Unmaker]] 16:10, 18 July 2012 (UTC) : Did it myself. Seems that now it tends to go on various bugs more than it should, but what the hell. --[[User:Unmaker|Unmaker]] 17:23, 2 September 2012 (UTC) Summary: All contributions to DoomWiki.org are considered to be released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 International (see Doom Wiki:Copyrights for details). By contributing, you agree to be bound by the Terms of Use. Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above. Do not submit copyrighted images or text without permission! This includes text taken from in-game codices or logbooks, or from official instruction manuals, strategy guides, and other such books. This project is not affiliated with id Software, Raven Software, ZeniMax Media, Bethesda SoftWorks, or any other commercial software developer or publisher. Use of trademarked logos and other protected intellectual property is solely for the purpose of analysis and critical commentary on the identified products and associated fan community activity, and does not imply any endorsement by any of these organizations or their employees, past or present. Upload images to the wiki. Don't forget to categorize pages! For testing, please use a sandbox. View this template Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window) Templates used on this page: Template:Archived link (edit) Template:ArchivedAt (edit)