From DoomWiki.org Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! == [[Void]] == ''map01? this is a single map!'' Interesting. Would you want to remove *all* single-level PWADs from those categories? I suppose it is a bit inconsistent to put them in the slot categories but not in "Levels by name" (which might look very silly since they are already in "PWADs by name"). On the other hand we would end up with dozens of slot categories which contained almost no PWADs (because 99+ percent of PWADs only have one map). [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 06:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC) : IMO, there should be a distinction made between "level" articles and "WAD" articles. If we use [[GothicDM]] as an example, you'd have the main GothicDM article and then separate articles if you _wanted_ to write individual articles on each of its maps. :: Er... right. I thought we had all agreed on that already. : If you have a single-map WAD then it's obviously absurd to have separate articles on the WAD and the level, because they're effectively the same thing. But that's okay! The whole point of the MAPxy categories IMO is for disambiguation. You search for "MAP23" and the wiki says, "MAP23? Which one? Do you mean MAP23 of Doom II, Plutonia, TNT, Hell Revealed ....?". It isn't just an end unto itself: it's there for a specific reason. : More important is the specific point you bring up: 99+ percent of PWADs have only one map. We run the risk of making [[:Category:MAP01]] frustrating/useless. Imagine if in three years from now we have 100 more articles on single map PWADs, all of which are in the MAP01 category. Now imagine yourself as a user trying to search for [[MAP01: Entryway (Doom II)]]. You do the obvious thing and put "MAP01" into the search box, and get back a page listing ''every single single-level PWAD article on the entire wiki''. Effectively you've then broken the search function because you have to manually search through the category list to find what you were looking for. It's not inconceivable to think that this might end up stretching onto multiple pages. [[User:Fraggle|Fraggle]] 09:00, 31 May 2007 (UTC) :: Hmmm. Okay, you've convinced me. I'll fix the other single-level PWAD articles and tweak the policy page. [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 20:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC) :: Still one possible problem for maps which were released both singly and as part of a larger project. If we rename it to '''MAP##: Level Name (WAD Name)''', we make it sound like the megawad release was the more important part of its history, which is not necessarily true (e.g. DWANGO5, RALPHNEW). If we don't rename it, however, someone doing the above described search in Category:MAP27 might not recognize [[Thematic Elements]] as the level he's stuck on. (Yes, a megawad editor ''should'' patch the titles in, and yes, the readme file ''should'' be included with every download, but...) [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 20:50, 31 May 2007 (UTC) :: ''It's not inconceivable to think that this might end up stretching onto multiple pages'' Hmmm, especially if we use Fredrik's criterion for WAD notability, which is that it was released. (I can easily visualize a bot that auto-dumps every text file from Doomworld/idgames into a poorly organized stub.) [[User:Ryan W|Ryan W]] 05:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Summary: All contributions to DoomWiki.org are considered to be released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 International (see Doom Wiki:Copyrights for details). By contributing, you agree to be bound by the Terms of Use. Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above. Do not submit copyrighted images or text without permission! This includes text taken from in-game codices or logbooks, or from official instruction manuals, strategy guides, and other such books. This project is not affiliated with id Software, Raven Software, ZeniMax Media, Bethesda SoftWorks, or any other commercial software developer or publisher. Use of trademarked logos and other protected intellectual property is solely for the purpose of analysis and critical commentary on the identified products and associated fan community activity, and does not imply any endorsement by any of these organizations or their employees, past or present. Upload images to the wiki. Don't forget to categorize pages! For testing, please use a sandbox. View this template Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window)