From DoomWiki.org Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! == Compression data edit / Speedrunners' achievements == Hello, Gez. I'd like to ask your opinion of two topics. Could you give your word for this - [https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=WAD&action=historysubmit&diff=82947&oldid=80631] I admit straight, that I'm unable to verify the content but it looks proficient enough to be true and I find it difficult to believe that such addition would be made with vandalism in mind. Thereby, I would publish it but not before knowing what your decision would be, especially as you've possibly dealt with this kind of material. The second matter is about the updating process of map records. Some speedrunner articles, [[Jim Leonard (Xit Vono)]] and [[Henning Skogstø]] being prime examples, consist only of a few words. What crossed my mind was that once the demos have been checked to be up to date, with Doom, Doom II, Evilution and Plutonia being priorized, the speedrunner articles could have a table showing the relevant current records in some detail. Thus, here is a draft I wrote yesterday for Xit Vono's article, showing his Doom II records: <br> '''Doom II''' (MAP01 - MAP19 and MAP31 - MAP32, verified so far) {{col-begin}} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[UV speed]] |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[NM speed]] |- ||<center>MAP12</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[UV max]] |- ||<center>MAP01</center> |- ||<center>MAP19</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[NM100S]] |- ||<center>MAP04</center> |- ||<center>MAP05</center> |- ||<center>MAP09</center> |- ||<center>MAP12</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[UV -fast]] |- ||<center>MAP01</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[UV -respawn]] |- ||<center>MAP01</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="160"|[[UV Tyson]] |- ||<center>[[MAP01: Entryway (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP01]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP10: Refueling Base (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP10]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP02: Underhalls (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP02]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP11: Circle of Death (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP11]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP03: The Gantlet (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP03]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP12: The Factory (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP12]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP04: The Focus (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP04]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP14: The Inmost Dens (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP14]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP05: The Waste Tunnels (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP05]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP15: Industrial Zone (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP15]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP06: The Crusher (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP06]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP16: Suburbs (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP16]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP07: Dead Simple (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP07]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP17: Tenements (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP17]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP08: Tricks and Traps (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP08]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP18: The Courtyard (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP18]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP09: The Pit (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP09]]<font color="ffffff">______</font>[[MAP19: The Citadel (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP19]]</center> |- ||<center>[[MAP31: Wolfenstein (Doom II)#Speedrunning|MAP31]]</center> |} | width="6%" valign="top" | {| {{prettytable}} |- !width="80"|[[UV pacifist]] |- ||<center>MAP15 (n)</center> |} {{col-end}} Is this a completely bad idea? I mean, the information is already present on the level articles and also on the run articles ([[UV speed]], [[NM speed]] etc.) but not on the author pages. Briefly, the wiki provides ''level-based'', ''run-based'' but not ''author-based'' data. But do we need the last one? Your opinion is appreciated. --[[User:Jartapran|Jartapran]] 19:59, 22 October 2012 (UTC) :The Jaguar Doom thing is legit. As for the speedrunner pages, it doesn't seem like a bad idea. Mod authors have their accomplishments listed on their page, so why not speedrunners? The only thing behind that it's one more page to maintain; e.g. if someone releases a new map, this won't make [[Paul DeBruyne (skillsaw)]] no longer the creator of [[Lunatic]]; but if there's a new record on a map made by someone different from the previous record-holder, the map article and both speedrunners' pages must be updated to reflect this. --[[User:Gez|Gez]] 20:11, 22 October 2012 (UTC) :For the record it was I who wrote the Jaguar Doom stuff. I just forgot to log-in. --[[User:Blzut3|Blzut3]] 21:25, 22 October 2012 (UTC) ::This doesn't surprise me in the slightest. :) --[[User:Gez|Gez]] 21:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC) :::I've examined fx's Compet-N site more carefully, and it seems the [http://www.doom.com.hr/public/doom2/demos/compet-n/incoming/ incoming folder] is the local ''recent changes''. If new demos really come at such a slow pace, I don't see a problem with the extra work the author-based data would cause. I'll re-design the tables when its topical as those above really aren't the most editor-friendly ones. --[[User:Jartapran|Jartapran]] 00:32, 23 October 2012 (UTC) :::I've re-checked E1M7 as well and found nothing dubious. Could you [https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=E1M7%3A_Computer_Station_%28Doom%29&action=historysubmit&diff=83204&oldid=80649 move] the changes from the draft to the published page? Summary: All contributions to DoomWiki.org are considered to be released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 International (see Doom Wiki:Copyrights for details). By contributing, you agree to be bound by the Terms of Use. Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above. Do not submit copyrighted images or text without permission! This includes text taken from in-game codices or logbooks, or from official instruction manuals, strategy guides, and other such books. 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