From DoomWiki.org Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be recorded in this page's edit history. Anti-spam check. Do not fill this in! ==Friendly feedback== Hey, thanks for your contributions on the Master Levels' map articles. You've made good work, but I'd like to advise on a few things. While it is not written anywhere, the thing tables only include the amounts of single-player mode things. To maintain consistency, please exclude all multiplayer-flagged things from now on. The second thing is the problem I found with a few of the thing count values [https://doomwiki.org/w/index.php?title=MAP01:_Canyon_(Master_Levels)&curid=9876&diff=101476&oldid=101418 here]. When I examine CANYON.WAD in a level editor (DeePsea), I get the following information about shotgun shells (thing type 2008) and boxes of shotgun shells (type 2049): {{col-begin}} {{col-break}} {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%; width: auto !colspan="5"|Shotgun shells |- |Thing number||1–2||3||4–5||Multiplayer |- ||#144||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#145||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#146||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#147||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#167||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#168||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#169||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#320||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#321||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#322||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#323||✔|||||| |- ||#324||✔|||||| |- ||#342||||✔||✔|| |- ||#343||||✔||✔|| |- ||#344||||✔||✔|| |- ||#345||||✔||✔|| |- ||#346||||✔||✔|| |- ||'''Total'''||'''12'''||'''15'''||'''15'''||'''0''' |} {{col-break}} {| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 95%; width: auto !colspan="5"|Boxes of shotgun shells |- |Thing number||1–2||3||4–5||Multiplayer |- ||#259||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||#319||✔||✔||✔|| |- ||'''Total'''||'''2'''||'''2'''||'''2'''||'''0''' |} {{col-end}} I don't know what your source was, or if Master Levels have different versions, but could you re-check if you get similar information about the two thing types above? Finally, I simplified the first essential note of the linked edit because I just didn't get what was meant there when I played the level. If you wish to explain here in deeper detail, I'm willing to hear. Thank you. --[[User:Jartapran|Jartapran]] ([[User talk:Jartapran|talk]]) 07:04, 21 May 2015 (CDT) : You're welcome:) The thing number differs from that you have counted because I also counted items that present on the multiplayer mode. Thus, there are, as sample, two rocket launchers in total. Now about the essentials section. When I wrote "Get to the south portion either by lift or walking on the ground" I meant that you can get to the south of the outside area using either a lift or walk on the grounds but the lift is much faster. [[User:MtErebus|MtErebus]] 18:56, 21 May 2015 (UTC) :: You misunderstood now – multiplayer things did explain the weapon appearance numbers, which I fixed already. But there are no multiplayer things for ''shotgun shells'' and ''boxes of shells''. Still, you wrote that there would be 17 shotgun shell things on difficulty levels 1 and 2, while I got 12. Similarly, I got two boxes of shells on difficulties 1-5, while you got one. Those are the differences I can't understand and am trying to solve. Did you write those numbers by mistake, or do you still get 17 shotgun shells on 1-2 and one box of shells on 1-5? ::: Well, seems that I overlooked. Cannot remember what have I smoked while writing this table:P I recheked it all. I also think that Master levels weren't released under various versions [[User:MtErebus|MtErebus]] 20:20, 21 May 2015 (UTC) :: I can't get at all why the brown lift would offer a much faster way. You start on one of four columns and the fastest way would be to run onto the column that you face in the beginning and proceed from there towards the south portion. You don't need to use the lift at all for that. --[[User:Jartapran|Jartapran]] ([[User talk:Jartapran|talk]]) 12:06, 21 May 2015 (CDT) Summary: All contributions to DoomWiki.org are considered to be released under the CC BY-SA 4.0 International (see Doom Wiki:Copyrights for details). By contributing, you agree to be bound by the Terms of Use. Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above. Do not submit copyrighted images or text without permission! This includes text taken from in-game codices or logbooks, or from official instruction manuals, strategy guides, and other such books. This project is not affiliated with id Software, Raven Software, ZeniMax Media, Bethesda SoftWorks, or any other commercial software developer or publisher. Use of trademarked logos and other protected intellectual property is solely for the purpose of analysis and critical commentary on the identified products and associated fan community activity, and does not imply any endorsement by any of these organizations or their employees, past or present. Upload images to the wiki. Don't forget to categorize pages! For testing, please use a sandbox. View this template Cancel | Editing help (opens in new window)