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OST?

Hi, thanks for all your recent work on soundtracks. I'm not sure I like the use of "OST" in every entry of a WAD's soundtrack section though, like here. It's not bothering me (much) on individual map pages, but in the listing it becomes too wordy and repetitive, IMHO. In the past, this hasn't been applied much either, usually for external titles "from Descent II" (for example) suffices, and names of Doom/Doom II/TNT et all tracks are so common throughout the wiki that just linking the track to Doom music etc. (like before your Scythe edit) sufficed, though indeed not for every subsequent use. What do you think, can such listings be condensed a bit? --Xymph (talk) 09:39, 26 February 2023 (CST)

Hello! Maybe for common Doom games' tracks it's enough to write down tracks' names and to not mention IWADs and composer? For example: instead of <"In the Dark" by Robert Prince, from Doom 2 OST> we can just write <"In the Dark">? But what about repetitive use? If WAD uses all the tracks from Doom, should I link to music for every track with different name or only for the very first? Nockson (talk) 10:15, 26 February 2023 (CST)
Composers are always credited, and since Prince wrote all D1/D2 tracks, that also helps readers recognize that the track title originates from either soundtrack without explicit mention. Duplicate links should be avoided indeed, so link only the first occurrence to the D1music, D2music, etc pages. E.g. like here. But that is just one sample, this stuff is not formatted consistently in many WAD overview pages. --Xymph (talk) 10:53, 26 February 2023 (CST)
OK, I will keep this in mind for my future edits and will fix the ones I've done before. One more question - Bobby Prince or Robert Prince? I prefer the latter, because it's formal, but I see that most articles go with Bobby. Nockson (talk) 11:00, 26 February 2023 (CST)
Either is fine, and little variation makes things less formalistic. But the score is the other way around: 95 vs. 798. ;) --Xymph (talk) 11:06, 26 February 2023 (CST)
I've fixed Scythe's page per our discussion. Is it fine? Nockson (talk) 11:09, 26 February 2023 (CST)
Works for me, thanks. --Xymph (talk) 11:19, 26 February 2023 (CST)

WF new/changed/removed custom things

Hi, perhaps you missed this request, but that info is still important to document. If the TSV format is an obstacle, just a simple bullet list would suffice too. Thanks. --Xymph (talk) 13:05, 12 March 2023 (CDT)

Hello! I saw this but wasn't able to do anything. I've tried using DMMPST, but it only gave me an info about Doom 2 maps, not the actual WF maps (I'm not giving up and will try again later). I've never heard about TSV before. What do you mean by "bullet list"? Should I just update the table in that discussion or do you mean something else? I'm gathering information for articles by using Slade and sometimes Doom Builder 2. The process is not automated at all, I just look through DECORATE etc. --Nockson (talk) 13:18, 12 March 2023 (CDT)
I didn't ask you to use DMMPST (though you're welcome to try, but better on something simple instead of WF), but to provide the precise details about the custom thing changes. Either in TSV format like in that table (which I can directly use with DMMPST), or as a bullet list (i.e. starting with asterisks). So yes, if you could update that table we can move forward, and I'll generate the updated thing tables on the map pages. --Xymph (talk) 13:46, 12 March 2023 (CDT)
Oh, I see. Will do that! --Nockson (talk) 13:47, 12 March 2023 (CDT)

Leftovers

Hi, don't forget this one for soundtrack. And this for the other project participants. --Xymph (talk) 16:48, 20 March 2023 (CDT)

Will do that later today! I didn't forget. --Nockson (talk) 00:38, 21 March 2023 (CDT)
First thing's done! About the second - I made links to different levels, is it okay this way? And also question - should I add to mappers' pages all their content in DMP2022 (like photos, sprites, music, levels for Wolf3D and Hacx etc.) or only Doom-related? --Nockson (talk) 14:21, 21 March 2023 (CDT)
I was relieved when you created the article without map links. Because IMO in recent years the DMP series has gone from bad to worse, and 2021's maps were a PITA to cover in detail. 2022 looks even worse, just doesn't meet wiki (or at least my) standards in terms of organization anymore, and I have no intention of covering the maps. So you might as well unlink them and lower the Wanted Pages count.
The WAD and each participant's maps (like for 2021, without all the other "stuff") should still be covered on the mapper pages, without redlinks. --Xymph (talk) 15:54, 21 March 2023 (CDT)
Arrgh, I've spend some time creating all these links... Well, gotta learn the hard way. I will undo that and do mappers' pages. --Nockson (talk) 16:00, 21 March 2023 (CDT)