Talk:Freedoom

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limit removing, etc.[edit]

The article should reflect the state of freedoom as of the last release; since there has not been a release of Freedoom since the goal change to 'limit removing', this is not strictly correct. It's fine to mention that the goal has changed however. -- Shambler (talk) 03:40, 15 February 2017 (CST)

A new release is coming soon, since chungy has accepted new demos to the repo, which he said he would only accept when a new release is getting ready. Also, the goal change was "Boom" to "vanilla", but limit-removing is temporary milestone for the project. Most of the bigger maps are limit removing, which are quite a few really. The rest are vanilla, and very few aren't even Boom anymore. Point is, it's safe to assume that the current state of Freedoom is how the new release will be like. There's even a thread on Doomworld specifically on getting Freedoom v0.11 ready. I don't see the point in moving the vanilla-compatibility announcement away from the History section and taking out the reference too. It is history. --Voros (talk) 10:13, 15 February 2017 (CST)
I understand your enthusiasm, but bear in mind that the latest release is what most people will be seeing, and the Boom maps effectively set the required port for playing the game anyway. It gets too confusing to note that some maps are vanilla, some are limit-removing, some are Boom. Let's keep it simple and related only to current releases (and while 0.11 may be soon, 0.10.1 is still current).
When 0.11 is out, we should (re-)add a new paragraph to the history about the changing targets and limit-removing being an interim target. --Chungy (talk) 15:21, 15 February 2017 (CST)
Whatever you say. It is a bit confusing with vanilla, limit removing and Boom mentions in the beginning of the article. But I still think the vanilla-compatibility paragraph should be kept in the History section, because it was a major thing in Freedoom's development. Isn't that what the History section is meant record?

Links added[edit]

An anon recently added a plethora of links to weapons and monsters that don't exist and I would argue, at this point at least, should not exist. Freedoom is subject to constant change, and is also entirely composed of reskinned Doom content. I don't see the necessity of articles at this point to detail weapons and monsters that may yet be reworked multiple times, and are a repeat of their Doom articles with the names changed. --Quasar (talk) 10:49, 4 April 2017 (CDT)

While not knowing much about the Freedoom project, that sounds reasonable so I agree. --Xymph (talk) 10:53, 4 April 2017 (CDT)
Agreed; the project is particularly in flux at the moment, due to the format change and new coordinators.  A retrospective version comparison would be a fine idea IMO, given the project's significance, but that should wait until features actually settle down (or all the mappers retire to spend more time with the grandkids).    Ryan W (usually gone) 05:20, 7 April 2017 (CDT)
Didn't notice the discussion here. I already removed the links, stating my reason as to why I reverted it (if that's not a problem). --Voros (talk) 03:06, 5 April 2017 (CDT)

It's an IWAD[edit]

This was categorized as a total conversion, but it's actually an IWAD, i.e. a stand-alone game. The article is correct in describing it, so I just removed the TC cat. But, as discussed this week, I wouldn't be surprised if these things are commonly conflated :) --PhilthyPhilistine (talk) 07:10, 25 December 2021 (CST)

About the labels[edit]

They do not use anymore chapter instead of episode, just to be different for the sake of being different... Not yet in the stable release, though.

https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/commit/82b14b3b5568b653b3febf14ef8f2feaed96b8bc

--Diabolución (talk) 13:54, 27 December 2021 (CST)

Never mind. By the time being, I think the CxMy scheme should take priority, until they release a stable freedoom1.wad featuring the ExMy scheme.

--Diabolución (talk) 17:14, 27 December 2021 (CST)

Levels as redlinks[edit]

It has long been consensus that due to Freedoom's unfixed nature, we would not be covering the maps, at least not until a major release occurred where they were declared as being relatively final. We can't track the whole history of Freedoom's violent map changes in the form of articles that would have to be constantly deleted or renamed/moved if some of the types of changes that happened to it in the past happen again in the future. My very strong suggestion is to remove the redlinks. --Quasar (talk) 01:28, 28 December 2021 (CST)

As the one who usually changes map redlinks into blue, and who can get frustrated by other projects with maps in a state of flux already getting wiki coverage, I couldn't agree more. Done. --Xymph (talk) 05:13, 28 December 2021 (CST)

Map List Out of Date[edit]

As of the current version, the list of maps is out of date as of version 0.12.1. Quite a few of them have been changed since this page's last update. I don't know where to find the list of authors to update it with for the maps that have replaced other maps. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SprocketW (talkcontribs) .

For the maps that have been replaced in 0.13:
E1M5: Main Control - Miguel Suarez Gomez (Z0k)
E2M1: Ruins - Luiz Henrique Gasparin Jeronimo (Xindage)
E2M2: Power Plant - Andrew Rehberger (Malinku)
E2M3 was moved to E2M5
E2M4 was moved to E2M6
E2M5 was moved to E2M9
E2M7: Quarantine Vessel - Oleg Vovk (Wereknight)
E2M9: Corruption of Man - Xindage, Emmanuel Rousseau (G0dCells) and Archfile
E3M2: Infernal Caverns - pan-te
E3M3 was moved to E3M2
E3M4 was moved to E3M3
E3M5 was moved to E3M4
MAP07: Outer Storage Warehouse - Boris Iwanski
MAP21: Under Realm - Patrick Kalinauskas (Amarande)
MAP27: Warped Elementality - Amarande
--Blursphere (talk) 17:00, 28 January 2024 (CST)
That is indeed why I made sure to specify the version the list was talking about when I added it. We are frankly overdue for a new Freedoom stable release at this point. Technopeasant1994 (talk) 17:05, 28 January 2024 (CST)
That was fast. :P Technopeasant1994 (talk) 18:14, 29 January 2024 (CST)

Level submission dates[edit]

Should leave this here, will do Phase 1 and DM soon. --Blursphere (talk) 05:09, 20 February 2024 (CST)

Phase 2[edit]

Level Date
MAP01 2018-12-02
MAP02 2009-01-04
MAP03 2011-04-27
MAP04 2005-12-23
MAP05 2001-09-18
MAP06 2017-02-27
MAP07 2020-02-28
MAP08 2003-01-21
MAP09 2016-08-29
MAP10 2009-07-28
MAP11 2001-12-13
MAP12 2014-09-09
MAP13 2017-01-20
MAP14 2017-01-18
MAP15 2009-05-26
MAP16 2001-11-01
MAP17 2017-01-20
MAP18 2015-12-12
MAP19 2017-01-20
MAP20 2001-10-19
MAP21 2020-01-25
MAP22 2003-12-10
MAP23 2002-12-11
MAP24 2017-01-20
MAP25 2002-11-09
MAP26 2019-09-29
MAP27 2021-08-04
MAP28 2009-07-04
MAP29 2001-09-13
MAP30 2001-11-25
MAP31 2017-01-18
MAP32 2014-01-08