Talk:Noah Woodward (Mr.INSANE)

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thanx for reworking it bloodshedder

I don't mean to be jackass but does Noah qualify? are any of the maps actually available? - Szymanski

That's a good question. A quick search for his name or the word "Crossfire" at idgames brings up nothing. Bloodshedder 13:53, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)
maybe a small note that he's a contributor to this wiki? (He put a fair bit of work into editing before creating this article). -- Jdowland 14:18, 13 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Proposal to delete[edit]

The person does not meet our notability criteria. Making a few maps (that I wasn't able to find any trace of) and being a part of a clan is not enough to warrant an article. It is also a very old case of self-promotion. So I propose to delete this page. --Nockson (talk) 06:39, 2 January 2024 (CST)

Sad that niche, underrepresented corners of the community get drowned by the sands of history, but such is life. Delete. --Dynamo128 (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2024 (CST)
Perhaps this is against protocol but I'd like to preserve the content of the page on this talk page, in case it could be useful for Doomsday Engine modding research later down the line:
Born in Turlock, California, '''Noah "Mr.INSANE" Woodward''' got his start in the Doom community in the Doomsday HQ forums, regularly helping other users with problems. Later, in February of 2004, he started a team to make a [[capture the flag]] modification for [[Doomsday]]. The team made some major accomplishments, but over the winter, its coder, "hexagon", disappeared. The project currently has no coder, so the only work being done is on the maps.

After the CTF team stagnated, he started on a map called ''Doom Hotel'', which was never released due to coding and real-life problems. He has also created a small map called ''Crossfire'', along with a revision called ''Crossfire 2.0''.

He has been in one [[clan]], Clan Delta, but left because of its inactivity. Currently, Mr.INSANE is beta testing maps for Darkshadow and some other people.
--Dynamo128 (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2024 (CST)
That looks to be significantly below par in both notability and writing quality. Delete. --Xymph (talk) 07:41, 2 January 2024 (CST)
I'm a bit torn on this one. On a first glance, the page is certainly very low on notability and quality. But isn't it a bit of a contradiction by Dynamo to vote for delete, but in the same breath wanting to preserve the contents of the page? Doesn't that already imply historical notability? I'm not well-versed on the history of the Doomsday community, so I can't really gauge the possible value, but if there's info worth preserving in here, I'd argue the page could simply be cleaned up and kept. Any thoughts on this? --Gregor (talk) 20:28, 3 January 2024 (CST)
I also raised an eyebrow over Dynamo's "rescue" action, and don't see how an unfinished effort on an ancient, unreleased mod can be relevant to the engine, given our policy to not cover unreleased mods except in rare situations. Also, if the page were cleaned up, with all of the personal, self-promotional, and unnotable activities pruned, there would not be more than one or two sentences left, in my estimation. So it remains below general notability thresholds, and thus I uphold my delete vote. --Xymph (talk) 05:23, 4 January 2024 (CST)
I agree with your reasoning; the page can only have minimal potential use even for a potential future research effort, and with the contents now preserved on this Talk page in case of this unlikely eventuality, the page itself serves no further purpose. Delete. --Gregor (talk) 14:18, 5 January 2024 (CST)
I almost feel like this content would be appropriately pasted to his User page, given that it doesn't currently exist, but that would be somewhat without precedence I suppose. We don't usually unilaterally edit those except in cases where the content is inappropriate. --Quasar (talk) 14:21, 7 January 2024 (CST)
Well, unusual situations can call for unusual actions. I doubt this user would mind either way, given they haven't been contributing anymore after creating this (indeed) User-ish page in 2005. --Xymph (talk) 15:10, 7 January 2024 (CST)