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Article seems to indicate that it wasn't yet released, which is our usual threshold for notability. --Quasar (talk) 02:07, 9 July 2018 (CDT)

I found a few threads on Doomworld. Apparently it was developed by someone using the screen name "loser", and people (especially ReX, who made at least three feedback threads) have tested it, so I suppose beta versions were available and it just never had a final stable release. Its website was on a free host and therefore expired long ago, since even the July 2001 capture on merely shows a "domain available, register it now" button. Ultimately, it's probably not very relevant and info will be very hard to obtain. --Gez (talk) 11:01, 9 July 2018 (CDT)
The fact it did, once exist, and there exists these crumbs of feedback on it, mean I lean towards having an article, although the current one is not worth keeping in its current empty state, and I'm not volunteering to improve it. I guess that means I'd support a VfD. -- Shambler (talk) 06:21, 10 July 2018 (CDT)
I'd prefer keep given the circumstances, but I'd update it to provide at least the info we have here. --Quasar (talk) 06:55, 10 July 2018 (CDT)
IIRC we've always accepted beta releases provided they were public.  This is sort of necessary because a project can be paused or abandoned at any time, due to RL commitments or whatever, or the creator(s) may simply never feel it is quite finished.  A number of mods have even won Cacowards as betas or demos.  Quantifying community impact is tricky given how many forums and review sites have gone dark, but historically it's much rarer for a programming project to reach public release than a WAD (more specialized skill set; harder to fix all showstopper bugs), so IMO there's no harm in calling those inherently notable as our written guideline does.    Ryan W (living fossil) 04:53, 16 July 2018 (CDT)


I did a little digging in old DW threads and discovered that this utility is not lost. It turned out to be the eXtendable WAD Editor. If you look at XWE release history HERE and when at some of the old threads linked in article, you will see that it is the same utility (the author under nickname Loser sometimes uses EXWE abbreviation; both utilities were first released on January 9, 2001; both saw testing help from ReX; both have similar updates etc). So I propose to merge articles. Well, this one doesn't have much info, so it can be just turned into a redirect IMO. --Nockson (talk) 12:09, 4 December 2023 (CST)

UPDATE: Proof: check out THIS thread. --Nockson (talk) 12:12, 4 December 2023 (CST)
It took some digging to follow your reasoning, next time please include post links that support your theory. For example, account Loser was used last in Feb 2002 and Csabo first in Aug 2001, so it seemed unlikely they are the same person. But ReX confirms that here and in that topic earlier posts by Loser are followed later by Csabo's, who eventually mentions their nick change on Feb 14, 2002. So okay, then it makes sense to Merge the articles. --Xymph (talk) 07:00, 4 January 2024 (CST)
Only just now saw this, but I approve, merge. --Dynamo128 (talk) 06:22, 5 February 2024 (CST)